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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @garak0410
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      @garak0410 said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      If you have VMware experience, why go through the extra complication of HyperV?

      I'm a Microsoft guy at heart...plus no next to nothing about Linux, should I need to troubleshoot ESXi problems.

      Where does Linux come into the equation? VMware has no Linux or Unix and is managed from a very simple client.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Here is what you do. Throw HyperV onto a box. Load everything else onto it the same as if you were doing physical. Done.

        Don't change one thing other than installing HyperV. Nothing.

        Does that fix everything or do problems still arise? Other than the RDP confusion, I think that that addresses all concerns.

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @garak0410 said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @garak0410 said:

          How do I remote into my host if it isn't on my domain?

          I'm lost here. How do you access it when it is on the domain? I've never had being on the domain make a difference. You are running into an implied obstacle that I can't visualize.

          The Host is currently in WORKGROUP, so I cannot RDP into it. I can only access it physically. Though all I've read over the months, it doesn't get joined to the domain, correct?

          I'm still confused. How does this block RDP? I can RDP into non-domain machines.

          The host is not on my domain, so if I try to remote to it via IP or DNS name, it doesn't connect...it does have a static IP for both virtual switches in our domain range...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Oh. You've just forgotten to make its DNS entry, that's all. Not an AD or RDP issue. Just needs normal DNS management.

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Oh. You've just forgotten to make its DNS entry, that's all. Not an AD or RDP issue. Just needs normal DNS management.

              Done...waiting on replication now. Now that I am thinking of it, most of our workstations have static IP's pointing to the current DNS server (also Domain Controller). After the new domain controller is promoted and the other one demoted, it is safe to change the IP on the new one to the old IP?

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Oh. You've just forgotten to make its DNS entry, that's all. Not an AD or RDP issue. Just needs normal DNS management.

                The host has two virtual switches...which one do I make the DNS entry for? Doesn't matter really?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @garak0410
                  last edited by

                  @garak0410 said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Oh. You've just forgotten to make its DNS entry, that's all. Not an AD or RDP issue. Just needs normal DNS management.

                  Done...waiting on replication now. Now that I am thinking of it, most of our workstations have static IP's pointing to the current DNS server (also Domain Controller). After the new domain controller is promoted and the other one demoted, it is safe to change the IP on the new one to the old IP?

                  That's not a good process. I've done that and it is unnecessarily painful. Instead use DHCP to push out the new IP address as the primary and the old one as the secondary.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                    @garak0410 said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Oh. You've just forgotten to make its DNS entry, that's all. Not an AD or RDP issue. Just needs normal DNS management.

                    The host has two virtual switches...which one do I make the DNS entry for? Doesn't matter really?

                    The one that RDP is listening on 🙂

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                    • garak0410G
                      garak0410
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                      I think I am going to wait until NEXT Friday. Either I am making this harder than it is or I am constantly encountering more detours and new considerations.

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                      • garak0410G
                        garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Oh. You've just forgotten to make its DNS entry, that's all. Not an AD or RDP issue. Just needs normal DNS management.

                        Done...waiting on replication now. Now that I am thinking of it, most of our workstations have static IP's pointing to the current DNS server (also Domain Controller). After the new domain controller is promoted and the other one demoted, it is safe to change the IP on the new one to the old IP?

                        That's not a good process. I've done that and it is unnecessarily painful. Instead use DHCP to push out the new IP address as the primary and the old one as the secondary.

                        IN a sick way, I am OK with manually going to each PC on the night I do this to change the preferred DNS server address...that way, I can catch the PC's not on a static and make them static...it is also another way I can verify the migration worked and all PC's look good. 🙂

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          You want them to all be static? Why not DHCP?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Why not run the old system and the new side by side for a few weeks?

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              You want them to all be static? Why not DHCP?

                              Again, my weak areas are showing. Networking...I've never configured DHCP.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Oh. You definitely want to do that. Not hard at all. And will make this kind of stuff much easier.

                                How many hosts on the network?

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  Hosts, as in HyperVisors?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                    @garak0410 said:

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    Hosts, as in HyperVisors?

                                    Sorry, I mean devices with IP address. Like desktops, printers, etc.

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @garak0410 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      Hosts, as in HyperVisors?

                                      Sorry, I mean devices with IP address. Like desktops, printers, etc.

                                      About 50 workstations...several printers with IP's (not via print server)...SQL Server, two nas's...software firewall...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                                        @garak0410 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @garak0410 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        Hosts, as in HyperVisors?

                                        Sorry, I mean devices with IP address. Like desktops, printers, etc.

                                        About 50 workstations...several printers with IP's (not via print server)...SQL Server, two nas's...software firewall...

                                        That is a lot to manage without DHCP but not horrible. Servers and NAS wouldn't be DHCP normally either way.

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                                        • garak0410G
                                          garak0410
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                                          I am about to collate my notes and go talk to owners...I may put this off until next week. The recent DHCP discussion and the way the VM's are sluggish in a remote desktop session makes me a little nervous about how it will react in a real environment...I am about to test some things with a mapped drive to the services01 VM right now.

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410
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                                            Got my "chill pill." Putting this off another week so I can test Unitrends, do some testing of our simple applications and procedures, try the DHCP things and flesh out my understanding of Hyper-V.

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