ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Fitness and Weightloss

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Water Closet
    fitnessweightweightlossdiet
    595 Posts 56 Posters 159.1k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
      last edited by Obsolesce

      @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      I've been losing weight a bit in Ukraine. No processed foods, no preservatives, and a nearly 2km walk to and from the office every day. Just normal daily activities are very healthy.

      I fear returning to the US. Always so hard to eat well and Texas is not conduscive to going out and walking a lot.

      Yeah a lot of the bad food (additives and such) in the U.S. isn't allowed in other parts of the world such as in some European countries.

      Sauces cost extra, soda refills cost extra, a small soda here is a large over there (basically)... the over-all food quality is a lot better... don't even get me started with the foods served in children's schools... it's just absurd in the U.S.

      Here in the U.S., you are right about it just being completely inconvenient here to walk or ride bike as a method of transportation. So you can pretty much forget about that, unless you want to die on the way to work.

      scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
        last edited by

        @Tim_G and I work from home in the US and have nowhere usefully within walking distance. Trying to convince the wife to walk for groceries every two days rather than taking the car once a week.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          In Italy we were walking up a hill for groceries as far as the Aldi is from us on flat ground in Texas.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            Today's walk. Did not feel like going around the lake twice, but I added the little circle paths around the landscaping.

            0_1494003695764_IMG_6148.PNG 0_1494003740000_IMG_6149.PNG

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • NDCN
              NDC
              last edited by

              I should probably log my rides more but I tend not to hit record when I'm commuting which is most of my time on the bike. On Strava if anyone cares to set up follows.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • matteo nunziatiM
                matteo nunziati
                last edited by matteo nunziati

                ok, I'm 1.75mt/68Kg (5.74 feet/150lbs), not talking for personal experience, but I've a friend which is on diet. He travels a lot for the company, lot of business lunches and the so... he gone quite fat.

                now his girlfriend is a biomulecolar chemist, not the most common work in Italy, so she applied to a nutritional science master and has started putting her biomulecoral knowledge in it.

                study result: eat 75% FATS, 25% proteins. Avoid any part of carbs.
                effects: you loose weight, your blood aligns with correct ranges then...
                your metabolism slows down, you loose weight slower and slower up to an almost full stop.
                solution: every 3 month have a super all-you-can-eat sesson, metabolism restart running, you continue with the 75-25 diet, your weight goes down.

                his breakfast was bacon and eggs! (ok in Italy this is not a breakfast, is an offense to breakfast, but this is just taste 😛 !)

                my friend has lost something like 15Kg (33lbs) in 3 months in a steadily manner with no sport activity.
                Now sport is good for other reasons, but you can loss weight even if you are constrained to eat sht, just avoid carbs rich sht.

                JUST A STORY, DO NOT TRY IT AT HOME WITHOUT A BIOMOLECULAR CHEMIST ON YOUR SIDE!

                ObsolesceO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @matteo nunziati
                  last edited by

                  @matteo-nunziati said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                  ok, I'm 1.75mt/68Kg (5.74 feet/150lbs), not talking for personal experience, but I've a friend which is on diet. He travels a lot for the company, lot of business lunches and the so... he gone quite fat.

                  now his girlfriend is a biomulecolar chemist, not the most common work in Italy, so she applied to a nutritional science master and has started putting her biomulecoral knowledge in it.

                  study result: eat 75% FATS, 25% proteins. Avoid any part of carbs.
                  effects: you loose weight, your blood aligns with correct ranges then...
                  your metabolism slows down, you loose weight slower and slower up to an almost full stop.
                  solution: every 3 month have a super all-you-can-eat sesson, metabolism restart running, you continue with the 75-25 diet, your weight goes down.

                  his breakfast was bacon and eggs! (ok in Italy this is not a breakfast, is an offense to breakfast, but this is just taste 😛 !)

                  my friend has lost something like 15Kg (33lbs) in 3 months in a steadily manner with no sport activity.
                  Now sport is good for other reasons, but you can loss weight even if you are constrained to eat sht, just avoid carbs rich sht.

                  JUST A STORY, DO NOT TRY IT AT HOME WITHOUT A BIOMOLECULAR CHEMIST ON YOUR SIDE!

                  You need carbs to live. There are good carbs and there are bad carbs. Sweet potatoes, those are some of the best carbs you can eat. The benefit of cutting out carbs completely, is that you are avoiding the bad ones (cookies, cake, etc.). But you should be eating some carbs (sweet potatoes).

                  matteo nunziatiM NDCN 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • momurdaM
                    momurda
                    last edited by

                    A life without cake is a life without living.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati @Obsolesce
                      last edited by matteo nunziati

                      @Tim_G actually you need water, oxigen, nitrogen other few things and energy to live and catalysts for reactions.
                      water and oxigen comes from different media (for the most).
                      Nitrogen comes from proteins.
                      Vitamins provide catalysts.
                      Your body fat is used under aerobic activity to provide energy if no carb is present. This is how you lose weight when you walk: you do not put enough carbs in your body for the walk and you start burning fats. If you put enough carbs you do not loss weight, you just stop add it.

                      ObsolesceO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • NDCN
                        NDC @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @Tim_G
                        This is a pretty well known strategy. It is essentially the goal of any low carb diet. It induces a state called ketosis. Some diets are more extreme than others in pursuing the effect. The version @matteo-nunziati describes is on one end of the spectrum.

                        Also keep in mind it is difficult to avoid carbs altogether. Basically all vegetables include at least some. You may not typically think about your carb intake when eating green beans but it's there.

                        ObsolesceO matteo nunziatiM 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @matteo nunziati
                          last edited by Obsolesce

                          @matteo-nunziati said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                          @Tim_G actually you need water, oxigen, nitrogen other few things and energy to live and catalysts for reactions.
                          water and oxigen comes from different media (for the most).
                          Nitrogen comes from proteins.
                          Vitamins provide catalysts.
                          Your body fat is used under aerobic activity to provide energy if no carb is present. This is how you lose weight when you walk: you do not put enough carbs in your body for the walk and you start burning fats. If you put enough carbs you do not loss weight, you just stop add it.

                          You can still eat less energy than you burn without cutting the good carbs.

                          Your body needs protein, fat, and carbs. It's not good to cut any of them out. What matters is the percentage of each that you consume, and the foods that that contain them.

                          If you want to lose fat, a good general rule is:

                          • 12 calories per pound of body weight.
                          • 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight. (chicken, lean beef, fish, turkey)
                          • 20% of your calories from FAT. (nuts, avocado, some oils - (make sure to count the fat in meats and eggs))
                          • The rest of calories from GOOD carbs. (sweet potatoes, rice, fruit (no more than two fruits a day))

                          If you're very overweight, use your goal body weight to base your calories and protein on instead of your actual weight.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @NDC
                            last edited by

                            @NDC said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            @Tim_G
                            This is a pretty well known strategy. It is essentially the goal of any low carb diet. It induces a state called ketosis. Some diets are more extreme than others in pursuing the effect. The version @matteo-nunziati describes is on one end of the spectrum.

                            Also keep in mind it is difficult to avoid carbs altogether. Basically all vegetables include at least some. You may not typically think about your carb intake when eating green beans but it's there.

                            If you cut out carbs, you're in for a rough ride. Not only is it unhealthy to cut out essential carbs, but you'll most likely end up caving eventually... and gain your weight back.

                            MattSpellerM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @NDC
                              last edited by

                              @NDC said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                              @Tim_G
                              This is a pretty well known strategy.

                              Many things in life are well known, many well known things are not good.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @Obsolesce
                                last edited by MattSpeller

                                @Tim_G said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                @NDC said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                @Tim_G
                                This is a pretty well known strategy. It is essentially the goal of any low carb diet. It induces a state called ketosis. Some diets are more extreme than others in pursuing the effect. The version @matteo-nunziati describes is on one end of the spectrum.

                                Also keep in mind it is difficult to avoid carbs altogether. Basically all vegetables include at least some. You may not typically think about your carb intake when eating green beans but it's there.

                                If you cut out carbs, you're in for a rough ride. Not only is it unhealthy to cut out essential carbs, but you'll most likely end up caving eventually... and gain your weight back.

                                As far as a "crash diet" strategy goes the zero carbs all protein and fats one is the way to go. Once you get into ketosis your body just RIPS through fat. Good F*(@! luck keeping it up over any length of time though. Also this is the diet that is best known for having people gain weight - if you screw up, your body drops out of ketosis and just SLAMS all that fat and protein into fat cells.

                                Source: I work with athletes at an olympic level + chat with nutritionists. Do not recommend (the diet).

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  Also, worth mentioning... is that if you find a diet and exercise that works, you can stick to, and gives good results without killing your health... then by all means do it.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • NDCN
                                    NDC
                                    last edited by

                                    @Tim_G

                                    I am in no way advocating that level of extreme. Nor do I think was @matteo-nunziati hence the disclaimer at the end of his post.

                                    I personally bounced off a low-carb diet at one point probably because it was encouraging a point further along the line than was good for me.

                                    Just adding some context for those interested in how/why something like that works.

                                    matteo nunziatiM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce
                                      last edited by Obsolesce

                                      For anyone interested in a program that works, check out The Truth About Strength Training. Note, it's not just about strength training.

                                      I've personally done it a few times, and I've recommended it a number of times and heard positive results. And no, I'm not affiliated in any way. I'm just pointing out a program that works, without any kind of extreme restrictions. In fact, all you do is eat well, exercise, and of course get decent sleep.... you may have to cut some bad habits, but you can have some cheat meals 🙂

                                      When I have a question, he's good with answering back too.... even to this day. I bought it years ago.

                                      I'd give my copy out for free, but that's illegal, and I really respect the time and info inside of it. It's definitely worth it, even if just for the info alone.

                                      People spend more than this on a case of beer... why not spend it on something that is actually good for your body instead?

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • matteo nunziatiM
                                        matteo nunziati @NDC
                                        last edited by

                                        @NDC yeah! I just know she did this on the basis of some chemical reasoning. My only chemistry exam at university was madness. Also the diet is expected to be a 6-9 month bootstrap then you have to rearrange your food for the long term.

                                        Just mentioned as it is possible to loss weight even if you cannot manage so much your food and you have no time to sport.

                                        She first tested it something like 2 years back on herself and now she is in "mainteinance mode". Med Checkups are all ok and weight stabilized.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • matteo nunziatiM
                                          matteo nunziati @NDC
                                          last edited by

                                          @NDC said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                          ketosis.

                                          yes! that's it exactly. I now also recall both the name of the induced effect and that he actually did urine tests to check his state.

                                          And no, do not do this at home! 😛

                                          @Tim_G what is a bad/good carb? I'm aware of good/bad fats but not carbs. can you elaborate a bit?! thanks!

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            Striving for daily.

                                            Today I walked to the event my daughter had.

                                            1_1494093015832_IMG_6170.PNG 0_1494093015831_IMG_6169.PNG

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 4
                                            • 5
                                            • 6
                                            • 7
                                            • 8
                                            • 29
                                            • 30
                                            • 6 / 30
                                            • First post
                                              Last post