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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

      Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

      that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

      True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @dafyre
        last edited by

        @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

        @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

        @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

        Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

        that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

        True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

        That is not the question. No one cares about that.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

          @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

          Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

          that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

          True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

          That is not the question. No one cares about that.

          Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

            that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

            True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

            That is not the question. No one cares about that.

            @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

            Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

            that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

            True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

            That is not the question. No one cares about that.

            Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

            I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

              that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

              True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

              That is not the question. No one cares about that.

              @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

              that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

              True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

              That is not the question. No one cares about that.

              Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

              I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                So if you're paying for 500 megs and you get 3, you don't care about that?

                That should be one of the early questions asked when researching file transfer speeds -- whether a VPN is involved or not.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                  that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                  True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                  That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                  Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                  that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                  True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                  That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                  Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                  I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

                  3f7d2d50-db28-44da-8b1a-0c90a0fcfd86-image.png

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    it's not relevant. it was tested and known that the line speed is valid.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      I can't speak for any other ISP, but Cox only guarantees the speed to their own services. So you buy 500 mbit/s, they only care if you get that to their own internal test site.

                      Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple times.

                      With that out of the way - the OP still needs to test a non encrypted transfer via the internet between these two sites to see what that transfer speed is like. This could be done by hosting a HTTP server at either side and pulling pushing a largish file.... then compare those speeds to the VPN speeds...

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        I can't speak for any other ISP, but Cox only guarantees the speed to their own services. So you buy 500 mbit/s, they only care if you get that to their own internal test site.

                        This is the given nature of the Internet. It is impossible to get around it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                          No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            So if you're paying for 500 megs and you get 3, you don't care about that?

                            We know he is getting 500, but that has nothing to do with the issue he has.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                              that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                              True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                              Even if they are giving him half of what he is paying for, that's the not the relevant issue.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

                                huh - I frequently get within 5% of the speed - and more often than not, I get more speed than I paid for.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                  No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

                                  huh - I frequently get within 5% of the speed - and more often than not, I get more speed than I paid for.

                                  Across the internet? I find that implausible. There are SO many bottlenecks, no one gets anywhere close. You can't use something like Speedtest to test as that specifically avoids all of the real world bottlenecks and tests the speed of your ISP, not the speed of your point to point capacity.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I pay for 100/20 mbit/s
                                    Here is a test I just ran on speedtest.net.
                                    this is to a local to me location.
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                                    Here is to some place in Washington DC
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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                      Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                      No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

                                      huh - I frequently get within 5% of the speed - and more often than not, I get more speed than I paid for.

                                      Across the internet? I find that implausible. There are SO many bottlenecks, no one gets anywhere close. You can't use something like Speedtest to test as that specifically avoids all of the real world bottlenecks and tests the speed of your ISP, not the speed of your point to point capacity.

                                      OK maybe not - but that is what I was basing my comments off of.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        Can you count a Google Speed test? or does that too avoid all the pitfalls?
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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                          Can you count a Google Speed test? or does that too avoid all the pitfalls?
                                          67770b90-a6a3-4115-ba7b-aee13576cddc-image.png

                                          No speed test can be used. You need to set up a point to point connection and test yourself.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite
                                            last edited by

                                            What about setting up iperf on both endpoint?
                                            https://iperf.fr/

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