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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

      There could be a router between your two locations on the internet that is the source of the bottleneck.

      There are guaranteed to be many, in fact. All of them potential contribute bottlenecks to bandwidth, all have to add latency.

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        200 Mbps is not bad. I'd be happy with that.
        You'll probably find out that the speed will vary a lot from day to day and hour to hour.

        Best performance will be when you use the same ISP and are physically close.
        It's also possible that the ISP will throttle your connection automatically depending on what port/protocol it sees. If so then running on another port sometime gets around that.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @1337
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          @Pete-S said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

          200 Mbps is not bad. I'd be happy with that.
          You'll probably find out that the speed will vary a lot from day to day and hour to hour.

          Best performance will be when you use the same ISP and are physically close.
          It's also possible that the ISP will throttle your connection automatically depending on what port/protocol it sees. If so then running on another port sometime gets around that.

          That's what I was thinking. Getting 200Mb/s on a VPN over the public Internet between points of any speed is pretty amazing.

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          • NashBrydgesN
            NashBrydges
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            Hmmm...maybe my expectations were too high. I transferred a 1GB test file from the remote PC to my Nextcloud install on Vultr and got around 200Mbps as well.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @NashBrydges
              last edited by

              @NashBrydges said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

              Hmmm...maybe my expectations were too high. I transferred a 1GB test file from the remote PC to my Nextcloud install on Vultr and got around 200Mbps as well.

              Assuming you used an SSL cert, then you still have the VPN overhead in that situation. but yeah, likely you are reaching the limit of the connection via the internet.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
                last edited by

                @NashBrydges said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                Hmmm...maybe my expectations were too high. I transferred a 1GB test file from the remote PC to my Nextcloud install on Vultr and got around 200Mbps as well.

                Nextcloud by default would use SSL, so a VPN connection for all intents and purposes, so a good comparison of another VPN situation.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre
                  last edited by

                  Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                    Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                    that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                      Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                      that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                      True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                        Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                        that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                        True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                        That is not the question. No one cares about that.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                          Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                          that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                          True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                          That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                          Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                            that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                            True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                            That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                            @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                            Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                            that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                            True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                            That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                            Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                            I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                              that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                              True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                              That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                              @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                              Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                              that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                              True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                              That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                              Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                              I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                                that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                                True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                                That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                                So if you're paying for 500 megs and you get 3, you don't care about that?

                                That should be one of the early questions asked when researching file transfer speeds -- whether a VPN is involved or not.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                                  that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                                  True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                                  That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                  Check it with SpeedTest.net and see what you get?

                                  that's where he started, that is useless. That's what led him astray in the first place because it shows the speed of the WAN without showing the speed of the path.

                                  True, but that would also confirm his ISP is giving him what he's paying for.

                                  That is not the question. No one cares about that.

                                  Plus I thought he already confirmed he's getting what he's paying for?

                                  I see no mention of how this was verified above, thus the reason I recommended SpeedTest.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                    it's not relevant. it was tested and known that the line speed is valid.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      I can't speak for any other ISP, but Cox only guarantees the speed to their own services. So you buy 500 mbit/s, they only care if you get that to their own internal test site.

                                      Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple times.

                                      With that out of the way - the OP still needs to test a non encrypted transfer via the internet between these two sites to see what that transfer speed is like. This could be done by hosting a HTTP server at either side and pulling pushing a largish file.... then compare those speeds to the VPN speeds...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                        I can't speak for any other ISP, but Cox only guarantees the speed to their own services. So you buy 500 mbit/s, they only care if you get that to their own internal test site.

                                        This is the given nature of the Internet. It is impossible to get around it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                          Granted, in most cases you should get something pretty damned close to one of the generic testing sites as well - which we assume the OP did when he said he tested multiple time

                                          No, you should not. That's a crazy conclusion. It's exactly the opposite... you can almost guaranteed not expect anything close to that speed.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier File Transfer Speed:

                                            So if you're paying for 500 megs and you get 3, you don't care about that?

                                            We know he is getting 500, but that has nothing to do with the issue he has.

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