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      bnrstnr
      last edited by bnrstnr

      Minimum reputation to make new topics? I know it's an old concept, and I believe it's already been discussed here, but it seems like it would be an effective solution.

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      • Alex JonesA
        Alex Jones
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        There is so many ways to handle this - I am surprised it hasn't been addressed yet...

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          gjacobse @bnrstnr
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          @bnrstnr said in Managing spam posting:

          Minimum reputation to make new topics? I know it's an old concept, and I believe it's already been discussed here, but it seems like it would be an effective solution.

          Not sure that would be workable

          Be deleting posts in threads rather than just that thread...

          That’s a @scottalanmiller question

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          • Alex JonesA
            Alex Jones
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            Maybe start with the tools that the platform provides?

            https://www.npmjs.com/package/nodebb-plugin-spam-be-gone

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              marcinozga
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              It doesn't matter what the solution is, spammers will find a way around that. The only way to stop spam is to force them to spend money.

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                Obsolesce
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                Captcha will help against bots. Try that first. Also, start blocking posts if they contain certain spam phrases. Block known ip spam lists.

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                  1337 @marcinozga
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                  @marcinozga said in Managing spam posting:

                  Phone # verification. I'm not sure if anything else is effective against spam. Captcha has been ineffective pretty much since introduction, you can buy services in India where they have real people solving captcha in real time for peanuts. Like 2-3k captchas for $2.

                  If you can buy services in India to solve captchas, maybe you can buy services to identify and remove spam manually as well. And an infinite loop of work is created. :crazy_face:

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                    marcinozga @Obsolesce
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                    @Obsolesce said in Managing spam posting:

                    Captcha will help against bots. Try that first. Also, start blocking posts if they contain certain spam phrases. Block known ip spam lists.

                    Um, it won't. Well, maybe just the ones written by script kiddies. Bots have built-in captcha solving, either with services like anti-captcha or some even include OCR and other advanced logic to solve captcha. Google xrumer or scrapebox.

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                      marcinozga @1337
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                      @Pete-S said in Managing spam posting:

                      @marcinozga said in Managing spam posting:

                      Phone # verification. I'm not sure if anything else is effective against spam. Captcha has been ineffective pretty much since introduction, you can buy services in India where they have real people solving captcha in real time for peanuts. Like 2-3k captchas for $2.

                      If you can buy services in India to solve captchas, maybe you can buy services to identify and remove spam manually as well. And an infinite loop of work is created. :crazy_face:

                      It would be nice, unfortunately while solving captcha workflow and integration with bots is trivial, catching and removing spam is not. Not to mention potential security implications.

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                        IRJ
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                        Right now, as are pretty much discussing a single bot. Perhaps captcha would solve this bot. There hasnt been many other spam posts that I know about on here.

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                        • Alex JonesA
                          Alex Jones @marcinozga
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                          @marcinozga said in Managing spam posting:

                          It doesn't matter what the solution is, spammers will find a way around that. The only way to stop spam is to force them to spend money.

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                            Obsolesce @marcinozga
                            last edited by

                            @marcinozga said in Managing spam posting:

                            @Obsolesce said in Managing spam posting:

                            Captcha will help against bots. Try that first. Also, start blocking posts if they contain certain spam phrases. Block known ip spam lists.

                            Um, it won't. Well, maybe just the ones written by script kiddies. Bots have built-in captcha solving, either with services like anti-captcha or some even include OCR and other advanced logic to solve captcha. Google xrumer or scrapebox.

                            I was referring to these on here, just assuming it's a single dumb bot.

                            Otherwise blocking threads with those phrases will help likely perfectly in these cases.

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                              1337 @Obsolesce
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                              @Obsolesce said in Managing spam posting:

                              @marcinozga said in Managing spam posting:

                              @Obsolesce said in Managing spam posting:

                              Captcha will help against bots. Try that first. Also, start blocking posts if they contain certain spam phrases. Block known ip spam lists.

                              Um, it won't. Well, maybe just the ones written by script kiddies. Bots have built-in captcha solving, either with services like anti-captcha or some even include OCR and other advanced logic to solve captcha. Google xrumer or scrapebox.

                              I was referring to these on here, just assuming it's a single dumb bot.

                              Otherwise blocking threads with those phrases will help likely perfectly in these cases.

                              For instance any posts having the word "carpet" will be sent to a moderator before being posted.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce
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                                Ya there's lots to be done, but the owners haven't been taking it seriously it seems.

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                                • Alex JonesA
                                  Alex Jones @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @Obsolesce said in Managing spam posting:

                                  Ya there's lots to be done, but the owners haven't been taking it seriously it seems.

                                  :backhand_index_pointing_up: :thumbs_up:

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                                  • DanpD
                                    Danp
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                                    Seems like enabling New User Restrictions would help. But this required enough manpower to review the posting queue--

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
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                                      My thought was just giving some trusted people here moderator status so we can just delete it ourselves. there is at least 5 people willing to do this and we're on here all the time

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in Managing spam posting:

                                        My thought was just giving some trusted people here moderator status so we can just delete it ourselves. there is at least 5 people willing to do this and we're on here all the time

                                        Yeah, it's certainly an option, we know @gjacobse is a moderator, but he seems to be a bit busy and not able to be around as much.

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Managing spam posting:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Managing spam posting:

                                          My thought was just giving some trusted people here moderator status so we can just delete it ourselves. there is at least 5 people willing to do this and we're on here all the time

                                          Yeah, it's certainly an option, we know @gjacobse is a moderator, but he seems to be a bit busy and not able to be around as much.

                                          yea - a full time non-NTG job will do that to a person. I do what I can or feel like I need to do when I can.

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                                          • Alex JonesA
                                            Alex Jones
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                                            It’s funny that you need reputation to up/down vote a post, but anyone can post anything they want as a newly registered used 🤔

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