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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      This depends entirely on you and what is an appropriate rate per hour for your business. Anything from $100+ could be reasonable for emergency rates.

      The normal prices I've seen are around $195/hour

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Emergency being "anything outside of the contracted terms". This could be a "I need you to stop whatever client work you are doing for someone else and work on this", at 2PM.

        So the term emergency is pretty well defined but might be vague in how you define them. As it may just be your after hours time frame. 7PM to 8AM or whatever hours you choose.

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          Alex Sage @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Normal Rate $100/Hour
          Emergency Rate $200/Hour
          Preventable Emergency $300/Hour

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Alex Sage
            last edited by

            @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

            Preventable Emergency $300/Hour

            Sorry, will never hire, because this can only be subjectively rerated post service call.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @jaredbusch said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

              @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

              Preventable Emergency $300/Hour

              Sorry, will never hire, because this can only be subjectively rerated post service call.

              I agree with Jared here.

              It's either normal hours or emergency hours. If you had another rate, I'd never consider you as a support option.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                This depends entirely on you and what is an appropriate rate per hour for your business. Anything from $100+ could be reasonable for emergency rates.

                The normal prices I've seen are around $195/hour

                For a typical, drop everything and fix my shit emergency, from an existing client with no specific agreement, this is $250/hour.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                  This depends entirely on you and what is an appropriate rate per hour for your business. Anything from $100+ could be reasonable for emergency rates.

                  The normal prices I've seen are around $195/hour

                  For a typical, drop everything and fix my shit emergency, from an existing client with no specific agreement, this is $250/hour.

                  Which is reasonable.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch Do you also have a rate for a drop everything and fix my shit for a non-existing client?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                      @jaredbusch Do you also have a rate for a drop everything and fix my shit for a non-existing client?

                      Meh, never has come up.

                      I would have to discuss it with the owner, but I could see doing it for either the same or maybe $300. But would require an up front CC payment of 2 hours.

                      I'm totally not sorry either. If we have no relationship, I am not going to trust you to pay us later.

                      @Bundy-Associates is not a company with overhead to let someone blow time working on something and not get paid for it.

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                        Alex Sage @JaredBusch
                        last edited by Alex Sage

                        @jaredbusch It's agreed on up front, and it's for something I already asked you to let me do.

                        For example:

                        Me: You should replace all your switches, they are 10 year old, and end of life.

                        Them: Nah, they work fine.

                        <later>

                        Them: Our network is down. Come fix it!

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
                          last edited by

                          @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                          @jaredbusch It's agreed on up front, and it's for something I already asked you to let me do.

                          For example:

                          Me: You should replace all your switches, they are 10 year old, and end of life.

                          Them: Nah, they work fine.

                          <later>

                          Them: Our network is down. Come fix it!

                          That's just a bad customer who isn't taking their paid recommendation seriously. It's on them later to deal with the consequences.

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                            Alex Sage @DustinB3403
                            last edited by Alex Sage

                            @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:
                            It's on them later to deal with the consequences.

                            They do pay the consequences, at $300/hour 😉

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                              @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                              @jaredbusch It's agreed on up front, and it's for something I already asked you to let me do.

                              For example:

                              Me: You should replace all your switches, they are 10 year old, and end of life.

                              Them: Nah, they work fine.

                              <later>

                              Them: Our network is down. Come fix it!

                              That's just a bad customer who isn't taking their paid recommendation seriously. It's on them later to deal with the consequences.

                              Technically everything is preventable, so this should always be the rate.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
                                last edited by

                                @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:
                                It's on them later to deal with the consequences.

                                They do pay for the consequences, at $300/hour 😉

                                Not true.

                                @jaredbusch said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                @jaredbusch It's agreed on up front, and it's for something I already asked you to let me do.

                                For example:

                                Me: You should replace all your switches, they are 10 year old, and end of life.

                                Them: Nah, they work fine.

                                <later>

                                Them: Our network is down. Come fix it!

                                That's just a bad customer who isn't taking their paid recommendation seriously. It's on them later to deal with the consequences.

                                Technically everything is preventable, so this should always be the rate.

                                This is why.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                  @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                  Preventable Emergency $300/Hour

                                  Sorry, will never hire, because this can only be subjectively rerated post service call.

                                  And really... what emergency wasn't preventable with enough investment or hindsight?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    Customer: I need a new PBX, I know you have your FreePBX thing but I really want a box in my server room.
                                    Jared: That's a bad idea for reasons XYZ
                                    Customer: Thanks for your opinion, here is your hour. Now install my box into my server room, thanks.
                                    Jared: OKAY

                                    It isn't Jared's place to overcharge for supporting something that he knowingly supported as his business. His rate is his rate.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                                      last edited by

                                      @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                      @jaredbusch It's agreed on up front, and it's for something I already asked you to let me do.

                                      For example:

                                      Me: You should replace all your switches, they are 10 year old, and end of life.

                                      Them: Nah, they work fine.

                                      <later>

                                      Them: Our network is down. Come fix it!

                                      Still remains subjective. Prove that new switches could not have failed. They will argue that maybe they prevented other outages by not listening to you.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                        Customer: I need a new PBX, I know you have your FreePBX thing but I really want a box in my server room.
                                        Jared: That's a bad idea for reasons XYZ
                                        Customer: Thanks for your opinion, here is your hour. Now install my box into my server room, thanks.
                                        Jared: OKAY

                                        It isn't Jared's place to overcharge for supporting something that he knowingly supported as his business. His rate is his rate.

                                        Exactly, the higher rate is already there for the emergency. Double punishing makes no sense, especially as everything could be avoided, in theory.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                          @aaronstuder said in Average Rate for Emergency Service:

                                          @jaredbusch It's agreed on up front, and it's for something I already asked you to let me do.

                                          For example:

                                          Me: You should replace all your switches, they are 10 year old, and end of life.

                                          Them: Nah, they work fine.

                                          <later>

                                          Them: Our network is down. Come fix it!

                                          That's just a bad customer who isn't taking their paid recommendation seriously. It's on them later to deal with the consequences.

                                          Technically everything is preventable, so this should always be the rate.

                                          And if it required recommendations, we'd "recommend" crazy high end gear and HA and redundancy for absolutely everything so that even if we missed something, it would have been covered somewhere.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by DustinB3403

                                            The rates should be defined long before the call ever comes in.

                                            Contracted customers: $150/hour non-emergency
                                            Contracted Customer: $175/hour for emergency

                                            Existing non-contracted: $250/hour emergency

                                            Non-existing Customer - I assume would fall into the same category as the existing non-contracted rate. With a follow-up of, "You really should get a support contract with us, it would've saved you X/hour for this"

                                            (all numbers made up)

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