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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-hawks-cheap-hardware-stays-mum-windows-9-246175

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Really interesting that Windows is now free on some platform.

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        • MattKingM
          MattKing @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Really interesting that Windows is now free on some platform.

          McAffe-free or free-free?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Not sure of that reference. But really free. Zero licensing for low power, small size tablets!

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410
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              And I think they will be pushing the online versions of Office: https://www.office.com/start/default.aspx

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              • MattKingM
                MattKing @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Not sure of that reference. But really free. Zero licensing for low power, small size tablets!

                Oh the joke was about those "free" McAffe programs that provide a low level scan and then just spam with "upgrade" and such.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Ah no. Nothing hidden. Just an attempt to keep Windows from being irrelevant while promoting Office 365.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    Do you think it really competes with Chromebooks?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Do you think it really competes with Chromebooks?

                      Windows on a tablet is pretty crappy. I've tried to use one, it was sad. But Chromebooks are laptops, not tablets. It is Android that competes here.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        by tablet, am I to assume you mean something equivalent to an iPad? You're not talking about Surface Pro or it's elk?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          by tablet, am I to assume you mean something equivalent to an iPad? You're not talking about Surface Pro or it's elk?

                          What's the difference?

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                            Carnival Boy
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                            The article is a little confusing because it's talking about laptops and tablets in the same article. Cheap Windows laptops like the new HP Steam are competing with Chromebooks, although only on price as there are things I like about Chromebooks that can't be replicated on Windows notebooks. And I have no interest in Windows RT.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              by tablet, am I to assume you mean something equivalent to an iPad? You're not talking about Surface Pro or it's elk?

                              iPad like = Windows RT (now dead) Surface Pro = real laptop sans keyboard

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                by tablet, am I to assume you mean something equivalent to an iPad? You're not talking about Surface Pro or it's elk?

                                iPad like = Windows RT (now dead) Surface Pro = real laptop sans keyboard

                                I tried to respond to this earlier but my iPhone died while I was typing.

                                I'm not sure how you are differentiating the Surface Pro from iPad here. One is a PC and one is ARM, is that all that you mean? Windows tablets are purely PC based now, they dropped the RT (ARM) platform and it does not exist anymore.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Do you think it really competes with Chromebooks?

                                  Windows on a tablet is pretty crappy. I've tried to use one, it was sad. But Chromebooks are laptops, not tablets. It is Android that competes here.

                                  coming back to this post, you're simply saying that the current Surface line is just crappy, why? Not saying I disagree, I'm just looking for more information.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender it's not an issue with the Surface itself, just the clumsiness of Windows on a touch interface. It's not smooth like iOS or Android and is an unpleasant experience. Hard to tell when you've selected something because it is unresponsive leading to touching lots of things and it just getting worse and worse.

                                    The things that you want to do on a Windows device are not touch ready - only some Metro apps that you generally want to avoid. Using Windows on a tablet mostly means using the features that you try to disable otherwise because they are so poor.

                                    If all you want is the weather it's fine. But you aren't going to get a nice, polished experience like iOS or Android.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      @Dashrender it's not an issue with the Surface itself, just the clumsiness of Windows on a touch interface. It's not smooth like iOS or Android and is an unpleasant experience. Hard to tell when you've selected something because it is unresponsive leading to touching lots of things and it just getting worse and worse.

                                      The things that you want to do on a Windows device are not touch ready - only some Metro apps that you generally want to avoid. Using Windows on a tablet mostly means using the features that you try to disable otherwise because they are so poor.

                                      If all you want is the weather it's fine. But you aren't going to get a nice, polished experience like iOS or Android.

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                                        Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I'm not sure how you are differentiating the Surface Pro from iPad here. One is a PC and one is ARM, is that all that you mean? Windows tablets are purely PC based now, they dropped the RT (ARM) platform and it does not exist anymore.

                                        Have they killed ARM or RT or both?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          I'm not sure how you are differentiating the Surface Pro from iPad here. One is a PC and one is ARM, is that all that you mean? Windows tablets are purely PC based now, they dropped the RT (ARM) platform and it does not exist anymore.

                                          Have they killed ARM or RT or both?

                                          Well they are effectively one and the same. RT was the name of Microsoft's only ARM platform product. So by not offering it anymore, ARM as a whole was dropped from the Windows universe except for their horrific smartphone mess.

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                                            Carnival Boy
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                                            Oh, OK. I hadn't heard. They're still selling the Surface 2 online.

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