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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
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      http://www.tomshardware.com/news/cts-labs-amd-ryzenfall-ryzen-epyc,36660.html

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      • IRJI
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        This YouTube video points out all the issues with CTS labs and reports.

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        • IRJI
          IRJ
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          Youtube Video

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            All these situations look weird. Have anyone seen the official AMD response?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @eonkraft
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              @eonkraft said in AMD chip flaw:

              All these situations look weird. Have anyone seen the official AMD response?

              Not seen anything yet.

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              • IRJI
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                @scottalanmiller said in AMD chip flaw:

                @eonkraft said in AMD chip flaw:

                All these situations look weird. Have anyone seen the official AMD response?

                Not seen anything yet.

                I wonder if these guys were trying to pick up stock really cheap or something. Although Intel wasnt really affected too much with Meltdown/Spectre

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                  @irj said in AMD chip flaw:

                  @scottalanmiller said in AMD chip flaw:

                  @eonkraft said in AMD chip flaw:

                  All these situations look weird. Have anyone seen the official AMD response?

                  Not seen anything yet.

                  I wonder if these guys were trying to pick up stock really cheap or something. Although Intel wasnt really affected too much with Meltdown/Spectre

                  Intel's marketing machine does good damage control. AMD is much more at the whims of the media.

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                  • mlnewsM
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                    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12536/our-interesting-call-with-cts-labs

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                    • Emad RE
                      Emad R @IRJ
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                      @irj

                      Torvalds wades into CTS Labs' AMD chip security report

                      https://www.fudzilla.com/news/45819-torvalds-wades-into-cts-labs-amd-chip-security-report

                      "looks more like stock manipulation than a security advisory".

                      "If you replace the BIOS or the CPU microcode with an evil version, you might have a security problem?' Yeah."

                      "I just found a flaw in all of the hardware space. No device is secure: if you have physical access to a device, you can just pick it up and walk away. Am I a security expert yet?"

                      "News flash: If an attacker has the root password, your system is already completely hosed. Everything else is just details."

                      "It's the security industry that has taught everybody to not be critical of their findings."

                      He also thinks, "there are real security researchers". For many of the rest, it's all about giving even the most minor security bug. In Torvalds' words: "A catchy name and a website is almost required for a splashy security disclosure these days."

                      "security people need to understand that they look like clowns because of it. The whole security industry needs to just admit that they have a lot of sh*t going on, and they should use -- and encourage -- some critical thinking."

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                      • mlnewsM
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                        http://www.tomshardware.com/news/cts-labs-responds-amd-vulnerability-disclosure,36680.html

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                        • Reid CooperR
                          Reid Cooper @Emad R
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                          @emad-r said in AMD chip flaw:

                          @irj

                          Torvalds wades into CTS Labs' AMD chip security report

                          https://www.fudzilla.com/news/45819-torvalds-wades-into-cts-labs-amd-chip-security-report

                          "looks more like stock manipulation than a security advisory".

                          "If you replace the BIOS or the CPU microcode with an evil version, you might have a security problem?' Yeah."

                          "I just found a flaw in all of the hardware space. No device is secure: if you have physical access to a device, you can just pick it up and walk away. Am I a security expert yet?"

                          "News flash: If an attacker has the root password, your system is already completely hosed. Everything else is just details."

                          "It's the security industry that has taught everybody to not be critical of their findings."

                          He also thinks, "there are real security researchers". For many of the rest, it's all about giving even the most minor security bug. In Torvalds' words: "A catchy name and a website is almost required for a splashy security disclosure these days."

                          "security people need to understand that they look like clowns because of it. The whole security industry needs to just admit that they have a lot of sh*t going on, and they should use -- and encourage -- some critical thinking."

                          This seems to sum it up. This is all way too "weird" to be authentic.

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                          • mlnewsM
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                            AMD confirms that the flaws are real, will have patches in a few weeks.

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                              mlnews
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                              http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-response-cts-labs-ryzenfall-masterkey-chimera-fallout,36707.html

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                                https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/03/amd-promises-firmware-fixes-for-security-processor-bugs/

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                                • KellyK
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                                  Looks like there is more to the story from a financial perspective: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/amd-confirms-chip-vulnerability-says-report-exaggerated-danger.

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                                    scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                    @kelly said in AMD chip flaw:

                                    Looks like there is more to the story from a financial perspective: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/amd-confirms-chip-vulnerability-says-report-exaggerated-danger.

                                    I'm not surprised at all.

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                                    • KellyK
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                                      Here is the CTSLabs "Proof of Concept" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrhVhFHTe9o. I think they're trying to demonstrate that they can flash the UEFI with a BIOS whose hash doesn't match a valid one. I'm not entirely sure. They lost a ton of credibility when they stated that a typical way for an attacker to hack a server is using the BUILTIN\Administrator account and then copy over the BIOS file to the C$.

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