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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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      @nerdydad said in Need a host recommendation:

      @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

      Why two hosts if you are forbidden to use them for HA?

      He doesn't understand HA. He prefers IPOD because that is what he is familiar with.

      That's like being familiar with a car crash so refusing to drive on the road.

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in Need a host recommendation:

        @nerdydad We run our "Production" hosts 3 years, then they become a "backup host" for another 3 years. After 6 years the server is retired. Our backup hosts have replicates of the VM's on the production host.

        This is what we are considering doing as well. 2 locations. Colocation will host the Product system while the hot site (my server room) will host the replicates.

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          Alex Sage @NerdyDad
          last edited by Alex Sage

          @nerdydad we have 2 sites and each site has a production host and a backup host.

          The backup host has replicas for both the local site, and a remote site.

          The thought being that if one site (burns to the ground, etc.) we have just fire up the VM's at the other site

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          • PenguinWranglerP
            PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

            @nerdydad said in Need a host recommendation:

            @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

            Why two hosts if you are forbidden to use them for HA?

            He doesn't understand HA. He prefers IPOD because that is what he is familiar with.

            That's like being familiar with a car crash so refusing to drive on the road.

            Isn't that more like being familiar with car crashes so he doesn't wear his seat belt?

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

              @nerdydad said in Need a host recommendation:

              @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

              Why two hosts if you are forbidden to use them for HA?

              He doesn't understand HA. He prefers IPOD because that is what he is familiar with.

              That's like being familiar with a car crash so refusing to drive on the road.

              😄

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad
                last edited by

                Okay. I'll blow it past him to see what he says.

                @scale What would you recommend with the specs above? PM me if necessary.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  Have you looked at @xByteSean

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford
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                    Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                    That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @bbigford
                      last edited by Dashrender

                      @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                      Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                      That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                      Lack of understanding or unwillingness to admit he did things wrong in the past.

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Need a host recommendation:

                        @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                        Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                        That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                        Lack of understanding or willingness to admit he did things wrong in the past.

                        Lack of understanding

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @bbigford
                          last edited by

                          @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                          Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                          That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                          Right, cart before the horse. Deciding the solution without evaluating the problem.

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                          • Mike DavisM
                            Mike Davis
                            last edited by

                            Does the R630 chassis have enough bays for your storage? I don't see a total capacity for the SQL drives. You can pack 24 of the 1.8" drives in the thing, and I guess if money is no object 23TB of SSD should handle most loads.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              FFS. You all need to just STFU about the money no limit and wtf no budget thing.

                              Nothing in his post insinuated either no money or unlimited money.

                              Just fuck....

                              He posted some light criteria and appropriately was not constraining himself to an arbitrary dollar figure for no reason.

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis @JaredBusch
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                                @jaredbusch I don't know about the others, but I was making light of the fact that he stated how much RAM it needed to have, but not how much storage it needed. In a 1U chassis that can be an issue if you are trying to keep costs down with spinners instead of SSDs...

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  If you are going with Hyper-V Server then try and get the backplane drive some of the l Dell hardware has.

                                  Drop you OS SATA disks on that and go to town.

                                  This lets you just grab all SSD RAID5 for the array, assuming that it can meet your storage size needs.

                                  It might only be the 2U models that have that.

                                  Call XByte, then can make you magic.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                    @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                                    Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                                    That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                                    Right, cart before the horse. Deciding the solution without evaluating the problem.

                                    But it is not relevant to his process because the constraint has been applied. Appropriately or not, it is there. He is at the point that he needs to find hardware to meet the specifications he has been handed.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                                      @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                                      @jaredbusch I don't know about the others, but I was making light of the fact that he stated how much RAM it needed to have, but not how much storage it needed. In a 1U chassis that can be an issue if you are trying to keep costs down with spinners instead of SSDs...

                                      In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                        In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                        in the very first post he said:
                                        10k disk for VM OS
                                        15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                        So that made me think local storage.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                                          last edited by

                                          @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                          In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                          in the very first post he said:
                                          10k disk for VM OS
                                          15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                          So that made me think local storage.

                                          Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                            @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                            In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                            in the very first post he said:
                                            10k disk for VM OS
                                            15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                            So that made me think local storage.

                                            Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.

                                            Nope. On the hosts. Local Storage. There is some DAS equipment currently connected but that is more for archiving and backups. That's it.

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