Signal Group Chat

NerdyDad

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Obsolesce

@bigbear said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

The Telegram app was just way better

What's the difference? I haven't looked at telegram... actually I think i looked briefly a few months ago and decided that Viber did more and that it wasn't worth switching. Then now recently I looked at Signal and it seems like the same as Viber, but secure.

Obsolesce

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Threema looks the best according to that chart.

Where does it say it costs?

NerdyDad

@tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Threema looks the best according to that chart.

Where does it say it costs?

Dashrender

This picture isn't as telling as I'd like.

https://i.imgur.com/eDl3Y3m.png

Dashrender

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Threema looks the best according to that chart.

Where does it say it costs?

It's $3 one time per platform (android or iDevices) Not that big of deal in my opinion... but it does make me ask - how is Signal funded?

IRJ

@tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Threema looks the best according to that chart.

Where does it say it costs?

You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

Dashrender

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Threema looks the best according to that chart.

Where does it say it costs?

You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

This really is the bigger deal.

Obsolesce

I see, that changes things.

I'd rather pay $3 for open source in a case like that.

scottalanmiller

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

@dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Was a signal group ever started? I am in

Yes it was/is...
but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

Signal

Wire

Telegram

No love for Threema?

I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

Threema looks the best according to that chart.

Where does it say it costs?

You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

This really is the bigger deal.

Same as not audited at all.

IRJ

Gizmodo says to avoid telegram. Encryption is turned off by default and weak when turned on.

https://gizmodo.com/the-best-and-worst-encrypted-messaging-apps-1782424449

JaredBusch

@irj said in Signal Group Chat:

Gizmodo says to avoid telegram. Encryption is turned off by default and weak when turned on.

https://gizmodo.com/the-best-and-worst-encrypted-messaging-apps-1782424449

OMG run for the hills. Encryption is off by default.

FFS. If I am trying to find a super secret chat app, I don't care about defaults. And if stupid users are stupid, they deserve to have their shit intercepted.

Now that second bit is the issue if I care about a secure chat app.

JaredBusch

I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

JaredBusch

I do also like that if I wanted an encrypted chat, it is there. Now the quality of that encryption is up for debate, as it is not using any kind of standard cipher library to everyone's understanding.

scottalanmiller

@jaredbusch said in Signal Group Chat:

I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

Yeah, that's really big. A huge piece of security that makes Signal not very attractive to me. A key purpose of using stuff like this is not sharing phone numbers.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said in Signal Group Chat:

@jaredbusch said in Signal Group Chat:

I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

Yeah, that's really big. A huge piece of security that makes Signal not very attractive to me. A key purpose of using stuff like this is not sharing phone numbers.

Agreed what the hell were the ting requiring that? And then not having a work around for not using them in the app?