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    • KellyK
      Kelly
      last edited by

      This is a weird one. Yesterday I switched over our gateway hardware by changing the IP addresses on them, so [old gateway] is now X.X.X.254 and [new gateway] is X.X.X.1. Today, about 75% of our Macs cannot connect. They are running from OS X 10.9.X through current versions, nothing consistent there. We have some connecting via TB2 to ethernet dongles, some through Thunderbolt displays, both ones that work and ones that do not. 100% of the tested 2016/2017 MBPs work. 100% of the Windows and Linux machines work. Reboots do not seem to fix the issue. I haven't tried clearing the ARP table, but that is next.

      Any thoughts?

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by

        I would definitely start with clearing the arp tables.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

            Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

            Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Kelly
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

              @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

              Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

              Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

              Are they properly getting the updated DHCP? I have had major issues with my MBP on an older OS version with it not accepting new DHCP info when setting up a new router.

              Did you set one up static and does it fail?

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              • KellyK
                Kelly @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @jaredbusch said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

                Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

                Are they properly getting the updated DHCP?

                Did you set one up static and does it fail?

                So the gateway address did not change, just the device that has that address. DHCP release/renew makes no difference. Changing to static address with x.x.x.1 as the gateway does not work.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  OK if the IP didn't change, but the MAC address did, sounds like an ARP cache issue.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Kelly
                    last edited by

                    @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                    @jaredbusch said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                    @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                    @scottalanmiller said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                    Can they ping locally? Can they ping the gateway?

                    Yes to both. Changing gateway to x.x.x.254 works (so old gateway).

                    Are they properly getting the updated DHCP?

                    Did you set one up static and does it fail?

                    So the gateway address did not change, just the device that has that address. DHCP release/renew makes no difference. Changing to static address with x.x.x.1 as the gateway does not work.

                    No clue then. I have never had a problem when setting one statically.

                    My problems always occurred when setting up a new ERL or such and the MBP kept refusing to come online with the new IP from the ERL's DHCP server.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      Is the new firewall blocking those machines for some reason? i.e. the new firewall see them as an attack? Anything in the logs?

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                      • KellyK
                        Kelly @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                        OK if the IP didn't change, but the MAC address did, sounds like an ARP cache issue.

                        Clearing the cache didn't fix it.

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                        • KellyK
                          Kelly @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                          Is the new firewall blocking those machines for some reason? i.e. the new firewall see them as an attack? Anything in the logs?

                          I'll take a look.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Kelly
                            last edited by

                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                            OK if the IP didn't change, but the MAC address did, sounds like an ARP cache issue.

                            Clearing the cache didn't fix it.

                            after clearing it, did you look at the cache to see if the IP matched the desired MAC address?

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                            • KellyK
                              Kelly
                              last edited by Kelly

                              Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to set up VPN. This setting affects all outbound traffic. The Macs that were affected are the ones that have not yet been joined to Active Directory. This is a really cool setting that I'll be turning back on when we're actually ready for it.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to

                                What firewall?

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                                • KellyK
                                  Kelly @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                  @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                  Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                  

                                  What firewall?

                                  Juniper SRX.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice to know it was working as intended, right? lol.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Kelly
                                      last edited by

                                      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                      Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                      

                                      What firewall?

                                      Juniper SRX.

                                      I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

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                                      • KellyK
                                        Kelly @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                        Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                        

                                        What firewall?

                                        Juniper SRX.

                                        I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                        About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Kelly
                                          last edited by

                                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                          Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                          

                                          What firewall?

                                          Juniper SRX.

                                          I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                          About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

                                          What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

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                                          • KellyK
                                            Kelly @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @dashrender said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            @kelly said in It looks like a Mac problem, but...:

                                            Well, the solution was no less peculiar. In my firewall config I had specified authenticated users for LAN to WAN in my work to 
                                            

                                            What firewall?

                                            Juniper SRX.

                                            I'm guessing some big money for that UTM.

                                            About $2k for each node. We have an HA pair.

                                            What was the reasoning behind the purchase?

                                            I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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