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    Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?

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    • creaytC
      creayt @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @creayt
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        @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

        @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

        Correct. What hypervisor you using?

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        • creaytC
          creayt @Dashrender
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          @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @creayt
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            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

            @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

            Prepare for the wrath of the Mango!

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @creayt
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              @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

              @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

              Um No.

              Stop now.

              Re-evaluate your needs.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @creayt
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                @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                @creayt Also forgot to bring up that Raid 0 also gives me way more capacity right so it'd give me terabyte(s) more before I had to scale to extra hardware? Can't remember how much Raid 5 subtracts.

                RAID 5 removed one drive. So you'd buy one extra drive for each node. This would, in theory, give you a read performance boost, and a write deficit.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @creayt
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                  @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                  @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                  Yep. This is a bad idea.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @creayt
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                    @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                    @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

                    THat's correct.

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                    • creaytC
                      creayt
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                      About to benchmark a 5-drive Raid 5 to compare it to the Raid 0 results I've benchmarked so far. Does anyone remember if you're supposed to create the VD w/ a size that's smaller than the full capacity to redeem the benefits of over provisioning or not?

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                      • creaytC
                        creayt @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @creayt
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                          @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                          @dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.

                          You ALWAYS virtualize, unless you have a specific reason to not. i.e. can't think of anything.

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                          • creaytC
                            creayt @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @creayt
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                              @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                              @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                              The overhead of a hypervisor shouldn't even be a consideration. There is literally 0 benefit to doing this. You could use a hypervisor and have a true HA setup so if a node takes a nose dive, everything is instantly (I mean instantly) up on another node.

                              You wouldn't even have time to blink.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                The performance hit from virtualization will be so many times less than the RAID 5 penalty, you won't notice it.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @creayt
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                                  @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                  @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

                                  easier backups.

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender Some reasons not to for this project:

                                    Performance goals
                                    Time to restore a failed server would increase w/ virtualization ( extra thing to configure )
                                    One less thing to manage
                                    Easier scaling licensewise

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @creayt
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                                      @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                      @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

                                      Easier failover to another machine.

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                                      • creaytC
                                        creayt @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender Would actually be less-easy failover in this instance, no?

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          It's free to virtualize.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @creayt
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                                            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                            @dashrender Would actually be less-easy failover in this instance, no?

                                            It would be easier to fail-over when you are virtual.

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