Printing broken by June 2017 updates

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in Printing broken by June 2017 updates:

WTF makes printing so damned hard on Windows? Why is it such a problem child? What is happening in 'nix that makes it so much less problematic?

Literally no idea. I'm lost on that too. Seems totally backwards. But we've noticed it a lot.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in Printing broken by June 2017 updates:

Next question - how many printers work with 'nix vs Windows? Can I go to BB or Staples and buy any printer on their shelf and make it work with 'nix? I know I can with Windows.

I've never seen Linux struggle with a printer (or even mention that it was plugged in, it just works instantly) since the 2000s, maybe like 2008 or so. Windows we still have problems printing on common HP and Brother printers today.

momurda

Crappy Unix Print Server works just fine for printing. Ive never not been able to print with a linux workstation. Doing some of the advanced functions like finishing/stapling, you need drivers for the device just like windows.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in Printing broken by June 2017 updates:

Can I go to BB or Staples and buy any printer on their shelf and make it work with 'nix? I know I can with Windows.

That's the point.... it's with Linux we find that you can do that and with Windows we notice that you can't do so as reliably. Most of the time you can get it to work, about half of the time with manual intervention to convince it to work.

scottalanmiller

@momurda said in Printing broken by June 2017 updates:

Crappy Unix Print Server works just fine for printing. Ive never not been able to print with a linux workstation. Doing some of the advanced functions like finishing/stapling, you need drivers for the device just like windows.

Maybe CUPS is so good and that is why Red Hat went so crazy making a cert just for it.

brianlittlejohn

I had 2 hp printers that wouldn't print with default drivers in Korora, one of them I got working through hplip the other I installed with hplip but it just printed out blank pages.

Dashrender

Here is a post on MS's forum for the same issue.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-update/kb4022719-and-kb4022725-iframe-printing-problem/1032caa1-c082-4fa2-b72b-2c78a01d4230

black3dynamite

@Dashrender said in Printing broken by June 2017 updates:

WTF makes printing so damned hard on Windows? Why is it such a problem child? What is happening in 'nix that makes it so much less problematic?

Next question - how many printers work with 'nix vs Windows? Can I go to BB or Staples and buy any printer on their shelf and make it work with 'nix? I know I can with Windows.

Drivers that are available from Microsoft works great. Its when using drivers from the vendors that causes headaches.

Most of the times using the generic pcl in Linux is all you need. Might have issues with certain copiers that has addition features requiring the exact driver.

dbeato

That issue I have seen it mostly in Windows 7 although is affecting Windows 10. Uninstalling the update is the only way to go for now. See this post:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2006071-kb17-06-ie-causing-browser-printing-problems

Dashrender

On windows 10, using Chrome solved our problem.

Dashrender

MS has released a patch for Windows 7 for this problem.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4032782/a-blank-page-or-404-error-prints-when-you-try-to-print-a-frame-in-inte

Dashrender

MS admits there's a problem, but no fix for any version of Windows 10 yet.

https://i.imgur.com/YUEb7Lq.png

dbeato

@Dashrender Very good indeed.

gjacobse

Here's a fun one...

Prints fine from Excel, but not Outlook - Turns out it was just a single email that didn't print. Something weird in the coding.

I haven't tried to print from Korora yet. But likely should be fine as I have older HP printers....

Dashrender

@gjacobse said in Printing broken by June 2017 updates:

Here's a fun one...

Prints fine from Excel, but not Outlook - Turns out it was just a single email that didn't print. Something weird in the coding.

I haven't tried to print from Korora yet. But likely should be fine as I have older HP printers....

The problem is web something related, outlook often uses web interfaces, so I'm not surprised.