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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

      @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

      He'd still be in the same situation with the OS looking for the array.

      Windows backup doesn't abstract that information away.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

        @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

        @DustinB3403 said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

        The issue with this is the same issue as was discussed yesterday. The underlying storage that the VM is looking for is the RAID array. That is why the devices have the cciss.

        If you can convert the disk to a NTFS disk for example, then you'd have no issues booting the VM.

        How you can do this inside of XenServer... change the underlying hardware (when the server its self sees is asking for the wrong hardware)

        FFS, WTF are you talking about? He knows the old device is not longer there and he needs to tell windows to stop using it.

        The vdisks are perfectly accessible, simply windows needs fixed.

        Ok dipstick, how do you fix it? I clearly said I wasn't aware of how to do this. So provide some help rather than being a touchy P**k

        Not sure, because I would not have done anything the way he did.

        But, I do know that you are talking out your ass.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

          @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

          @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

          He'd still be in the same situation with the OS looking for the array.

          Windows backup doesn't abstract that information away.

          Umm, yes it does. No we know for a fact that you have no idea what you are talking about.

          I have converted multiple servers from P2V and V2V using the backup built into Windows Server 2008.

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          • momurdaM
            momurda
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            Startup Repair should be tried as it is probably the quickest thing to try and has worked for me.
            or you can do
            bootrec /scanos (will try and find the windows partition of unbootable windows)
            bootrec /fixmbr
            bootrec /fixboot
            bootrec /rebuildbcd (think that is one)

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @momurda
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              @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

              Startup Repair should be tried as it is probably the quickest thing to try and has worked for me.
              or you can do
              bootrec /scanos (will try and find the windows partition of unbootable windows)
              bootrec /fixmbr
              bootrec /fixboot
              bootrec /rebuildbcd (think that is one)

              I believe @dafyre mentioned this posts ago, but @Dashrender never responded to it.

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              • momurdaM
                momurda @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch
                Ah, lots of stuff going on must have missed that one.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                  @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                  @Dashrender Cant you just use an external usb drive?

                  Well that will take forever... I'd honestly just dig up 6 old hard drives that are the same, and create a temp file server.

                  For something not critical use freenas.

                  LOL - freenas - really?

                  Lots of assumptions here -

                  1. I have six drives lying around
                  2. those six drives would be large enough to give me the needed space
                  3. I have a PC with 6 of the needed ports

                  And since I don't have 1, I can't have 2, and I don't have 3 either, so this is a giant no go.

                  If I was going to try this type of route, I would install install ubuntu or CentOS and just create a giant partition and share it SMB. no FreeNAS needed.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @momurda
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                    @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                    @JaredBusch
                    Ah, lots of stuff going on must have missed that one.

                    He did not post the commands though, +1 for that. @Dashrender needs all the help he can get at this point, because he is in stubborn mode.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                      @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

                      I haven't used Windows Backup in over 15 years - and when I did that one time, it failed miserably.

                      I'm not sure Windows backup would make any difference in this case - I would fully expect the Windows backup to still have the RAID drivers in it, and that the restore would expect it to still be there.

                      What I think I could use now though - an appAssure recovery disk or StorageCraft's Shadow Protect recovery disk that allows for the injection of drivers into an existing backup/recovery.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                        @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                        @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

                        I haven't used Windows Backup in over 15 years - and when I did that one time, it failed miserably.

                        I'm not sure Windows backup would make any difference in this case - I would fully expect the Windows backup to still have the RAID drivers in it, and that the restore would expect it to still be there.

                        What I think I could use now though - an appAssure recovery disk or StorageCraft's Shadow Protect recovery disk that allows for the injection of drivers into an existing backup/recovery.

                        Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                          @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                          @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                          @Dashrender why didn't you use the normal Windows backup utility built into Server 2008?

                          I haven't used Windows Backup in over 15 years - and when I did that one time, it failed miserably.

                          I'm not sure Windows backup would make any difference in this case - I would fully expect the Windows backup to still have the RAID drivers in it, and that the restore would expect it to still be there.

                          What I think I could use now though - an appAssure recovery disk or StorageCraft's Shadow Protect recovery disk that allows for the injection of drivers into an existing backup/recovery.

                          Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                          TIL

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @momurda
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                            @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                            Startup Repair should be tried as it is probably the quickest thing to try and has worked for me.
                            or you can do
                            bootrec /scanos (will try and find the windows partition of unbootable windows)

                            Can't find OS
                            https://i.imgur.com/OVsFJ06.png

                            Here is the dir contents - I know this is my boot/system partition
                            https://i.imgur.com/h2t1NWS.png

                            bootrec /fixmbr
                            bootrec /fixboot
                            bootrec /rebuildbcd (think that is one)

                            https://i.imgur.com/nHiXF9I.png

                            Still not seeing the install.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                              Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                              Well, that's good to know - I might have to try that.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                                Well, that's good to know - I might have to try that.

                                I can dig out some media if you want me to show screens.

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender
                                  Have you checked that c:\ in recovery console is actually where Windows is? Many times it is not. You also used clonezilla, which may be a fatal mistake for anything you do from this point on until you use xenconvert or try the Windows Backup route.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                    @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                    @JaredBusch said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                    Nope, Windows Backup had an advanced option you can select during restore to tell it that you are restoring to disparate hardware.

                                    Well, that's good to know - I might have to try that.

                                    I can dig out some media if you want me to show screens.

                                    I can build my own test box - but it won't be a real test because I don't have a spare server with RAID controllers to pull an image from. 😞

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @momurda
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                                      @momurda said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                      @Dashrender
                                      Have you checked that c:\ in recovery console is actually where Windows is? Many times it is not. You also used clonezilla, which may be a fatal mistake for anything you do from this point on until you use xenconvert or try the Windows Backup route.

                                      Yep as my screen shots above show - 😄 is where my windows install is.

                                      To make things hopefully easier, I have removed the additional drives from the VM so i'm only dealing with the 😄 drive. i noticed while troubleshooting earlier, that the old 😧 had swapped placed in the diskpart list with 😄 That is now solved.

                                      Here is my current bcdedit /enum
                                      https://i.imgur.com/fci9GJz.png

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        Why do you think clonezilla might have any blame here? Just wondering?

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in P2V Windows 2008 R2:

                                          I found that Citrix did have a P2V convertor solution, but it became unsupported as of version 6.5 (last supported in 6.2).

                                          I also found that there is apparently a new version, but it's a licensed product from Citrix.

                                          This is a big gripe I've had with XenServer. Every other player has P2V and V2V tools.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender Because clonezilla works at the block level. And lacks the ability to remove drivers.

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