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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

      I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

      LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

      I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

      Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

      They still have both, I thought.

      Ah, never looked that close.

      The one is business email, the other is like "free crap with your website".

      exactly - you can tell from the SMTP host for Mike's client that they aren't going to O365, so they must still have the free/crap one going.

      Could just be a relay.

      That's true, but then wouldn't GoDaddy have to pay for the users on O365 to MS?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

        LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

        I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

        Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

        They still have both, I thought.

        Ah, never looked that close.

        The one is business email, the other is like "free crap with your website".

        exactly - you can tell from the SMTP host for Mike's client that they aren't going to O365, so they must still have the free/crap one going.

        Could just be a relay.

        That's true, but then wouldn't GoDaddy have to pay for the users on O365 to MS?

        Yes. Why is that a factor?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

          LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

          I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

          Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

          They still have both, I thought.

          Ah, never looked that close.

          The one is business email, the other is like "free crap with your website".

          exactly - you can tell from the SMTP host for Mike's client that they aren't going to O365, so they must still have the free/crap one going.

          Could just be a relay.

          That's true, but then wouldn't GoDaddy have to pay for the users on O365 to MS?

          Yes. Why is that a factor?

          Because I'm sure it's not a trivial fee for GoDaddy to pay on someone's baseline GoDaddy account.

          I.e. I buy a domain name from GoDaddy, pay $20/yr and get free email. Then GoDaddy pays like $12 min of the to MS to give me free email? seems unlikely. Unless I don't understand what GoDaddy has to pay MS.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

            LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

            I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

            Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

            They still have both, I thought.

            Ah, never looked that close.

            The one is business email, the other is like "free crap with your website".

            exactly - you can tell from the SMTP host for Mike's client that they aren't going to O365, so they must still have the free/crap one going.

            Could just be a relay.

            That's true, but then wouldn't GoDaddy have to pay for the users on O365 to MS?

            Yes. Why is that a factor?

            Because I'm sure it's not a trivial fee for GoDaddy to pay on someone's baseline GoDaddy account.

            I.e. I buy a domain name from GoDaddy, pay $20/yr and get free email. Then GoDaddy pays like $12 min of the to MS to give me free email? seems unlikely. Unless I don't understand what GoDaddy has to pay MS.

            We don't know what they pay. Their deal with MS is their own.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

              LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

              I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

              Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

              They still have both, I thought.

              Ah, never looked that close.

              The one is business email, the other is like "free crap with your website".

              exactly - you can tell from the SMTP host for Mike's client that they aren't going to O365, so they must still have the free/crap one going.

              Could just be a relay.

              That's true, but then wouldn't GoDaddy have to pay for the users on O365 to MS?

              Yes. Why is that a factor?

              Because I'm sure it's not a trivial fee for GoDaddy to pay on someone's baseline GoDaddy account.

              I.e. I buy a domain name from GoDaddy, pay $20/yr and get free email. Then GoDaddy pays like $12 min of the to MS to give me free email? seems unlikely. Unless I don't understand what GoDaddy has to pay MS.

              We don't know what they pay. Their deal with MS is their own.

              And it is not standard Exhcange Online Plan 1 either. it is a limited 5GB mailbox.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

                LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

                I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

                Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

                They still have both, I thought.

                Ah, never looked that close.

                The one is business email, the other is like "free crap with your website".

                exactly - you can tell from the SMTP host for Mike's client that they aren't going to O365, so they must still have the free/crap one going.

                Could just be a relay.

                That's true, but then wouldn't GoDaddy have to pay for the users on O365 to MS?

                Yes. Why is that a factor?

                Because I'm sure it's not a trivial fee for GoDaddy to pay on someone's baseline GoDaddy account.

                I.e. I buy a domain name from GoDaddy, pay $20/yr and get free email. Then GoDaddy pays like $12 min of the to MS to give me free email? seems unlikely. Unless I don't understand what GoDaddy has to pay MS.

                We don't know what they pay. Their deal with MS is their own.

                And it is not standard Exhcange Online Plan 1 either. it is a limited 5GB mailbox.

                Yeah. They are a reseller of MS services. So it can be anything that they work out together.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Okay, I'm on this server now and looking at it as well.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Okay @Mike-Davis first thing that I found:

                    Dec  9 18:05:15 fax postfix/smtp[28895]: warning: smtp_sasl_auth_enable is true, but SASL support is not compiled in
                    

                    Your documentation says that you enabled this for GMail, but GMail is not involved so I'm unsure why it is there. But it is not going to work because the customer does not have SASL support on their server.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      After removing the SASL part from the configuration, now we are getting this error:

                      Dec  9 18:07:09 fax postfix/smtp[29023]: BE45D434A2E: to=<...>, relay=....:**587**, delay=0.11, delays=0.02/0/0.06/0.02, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host .... said: 530 5.7.1 **Client was not authenticated** (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
                      

                      So from this we know that the port is correct, but that the system is not authenticating correctly.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        From what I can tell, client decided on a mail server without SASL and a relay host that requires it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          It isn't clear in GoDaddy's documentation that they allow remote SMTP relay, but it seems like they must.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            The client machine does not have SASL, so does not support usernames/passwords at all. A bit of a problem.

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