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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

      Why are you doing this in such a hard way?

      You seriously have to ask this question?

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      • thwrT
        thwr
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        @thwr said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

        @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

        While I usually agree, Chrome isn't in the repos, just Chromium. So if you need to install Chrome you can download the .deb and use gdebi, which will pull in all dependencies for you.

        You are right, Chromium != Chrome (they just share the same engine).

        But one shouldn't use a manually installed browser at all. They are a huge attack surface and should be kept updated, which is hard enough on Linux, but next to impossible for a Linux newcomer who installs a specific version outside of the package managers control.

        I think it's much better safer to either add Google's repo for installs and updates (https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/) or just use Chromium. Either way, installing Chrome via a flat deb is usually a pretty bad idea.

        Not that I care about votes / likes / whatever, but -1 for this?

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @thwr
          last edited by

          @thwr said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

          @thwr said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

          @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

          While I usually agree, Chrome isn't in the repos, just Chromium. So if you need to install Chrome you can download the .deb and use gdebi, which will pull in all dependencies for you.

          You are right, Chromium != Chrome (they just share the same engine).

          But one shouldn't use a manually installed browser at all. They are a huge attack surface and should be kept updated, which is hard enough on Linux, but next to impossible for a Linux newcomer who installs a specific version outside of the package managers control.

          I think it's much better safer to either add Google's repo for installs and updates (https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/) or just use Chromium. Either way, installing Chrome via a flat deb is usually a pretty bad idea.

          Not that I care about votes / likes / whatever, but -1 for this?

          Ya I don't know why either.

          Without a working internet connection, this is going to be very difficult unless you install from the ISO, but even then you might hit dependency issues with 3rd party packages. Chrome is probably the least of your concerns if you can't even get a working network connection.

          I'd go back to 16.04/16.10 and see if you can get the internet working on that first.

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          • RomoR
            Romo
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            First thing you should do is drop 17.04 since it is still alpha, and start using either 16.04 or 16.10, as @stacksofplates recommends, get you base system ready and then start installing your desired third-party applications.

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            • LakshmanaL
              Lakshmana @Romo
              last edited by

              @Romo Ok I will try

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                last edited by

                @Lakshmana said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                @Romo Ok I will try

                And download that full DVD, it'll make things SO much easier.

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                • LakshmanaL
                  Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller Full DVD means all iso in the ubuntu page?

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                  • LakshmanaL
                    Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller Whether the same issue will occur in Ubuntu 16.10 OS.The reinstallation proceesss?

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @Lakshmana
                      last edited by

                      @Lakshmana said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                      @scottalanmiller Full DVD means all iso in the ubuntu page?

                      After a quick glance at the alternate downloads for Ubuntu, it doesn't appear that they have an "Everything DVD" like Debian provides.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                        @Lakshmana said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                        @scottalanmiller Full DVD means all iso in the ubuntu page?

                        After a quick glance at the alternate downloads for Ubuntu, it doesn't appear that they have an "Everything DVD" like Debian provides.

                        Ya you would probably have to make a local repo for everything. Never done it on Ubuntu, but it's relatively easy with RHEL.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Ubuntu never makes things easy, does it.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                            last edited by

                            @Lakshmana said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                            @scottalanmiller Whether the same issue will occur in Ubuntu 16.10 OS.The reinstallation proceesss?

                            Possible. But at least it is stable, supported and known. 17.04 isn't ready to be used at all yet.

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                            • StrongBadS
                              StrongBad
                              last edited by

                              I am with the crowd, use 16.10.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                @travisdh1 said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                @Lakshmana said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                @scottalanmiller Full DVD means all iso in the ubuntu page?

                                After a quick glance at the alternate downloads for Ubuntu, it doesn't appear that they have an "Everything DVD" like Debian provides.

                                Ya you would probably have to make a local repo for everything. Never done it on Ubuntu, but it's relatively easy with RHEL.

                                That's what I thought too and probably the best possible approach to keep an offline Linux system updated. It's not even specific to Debian or Ubuntu, you can basically do the same with Windows (e.g. WSUS).

                                This should get you started:
                                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
                                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
                                http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-create-a-local-apt-repository
                                http://linoxide.com/ubuntu-how-to/setup-local-repository-ubuntu/

                                PS: Follow one tutorial and adapt information from the other links later on, if required.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @thwr
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                                  @thwr said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                  @Lakshmana said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                  @scottalanmiller Full DVD means all iso in the ubuntu page?

                                  After a quick glance at the alternate downloads for Ubuntu, it doesn't appear that they have an "Everything DVD" like Debian provides.

                                  Ya you would probably have to make a local repo for everything. Never done it on Ubuntu, but it's relatively easy with RHEL.

                                  That's what I thought too and probably the best possible approach to keep an offline Linux system updated. It's not even specific to Debian or Ubuntu, you can basically do the same with Windows (e.g. WSUS).

                                  This should get you started:
                                  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
                                  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
                                  http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-create-a-local-apt-repository
                                  http://linoxide.com/ubuntu-how-to/setup-local-repository-ubuntu/

                                  PS: Follow one tutorial and adapt information from the other links later on, if required.

                                  Ya I that with all of our RHEL systems. Yum gives you a reposync tool, so I just reposync the repos I'm attached to and store them on an apache server. It's really easy.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates
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                                    I was going to go with a Spacewalk server, but since I'm using Puppet for CM, the complexities of Spacewalk wasn't worth it just for the repos.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                      I was going to go with a Spacewalk server, but since I'm using Puppet for CM, the complexities of Spacewalk wasn't worth it just for the repos.

                                      I used Spacewalk one place for everything and honestly, I hate it. Way too much work, way too little results 🙂

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                        I was going to go with a Spacewalk server, but since I'm using Puppet for CM, the complexities of Spacewalk wasn't worth it just for the repos.

                                        I used Spacewalk one place for everything and honestly, I hate it. Way too much work, way too little results 🙂

                                        I had an instance built and was playing with it. That's the impression I got. It's easier to drop a .repo file in and just use Apache to serve the files. Esp since I'm using Puppet.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                          I was going to go with a Spacewalk server, but since I'm using Puppet for CM, the complexities of Spacewalk wasn't worth it just for the repos.

                                          I used Spacewalk one place for everything and honestly, I hate it. Way too much work, way too little results 🙂

                                          I had an instance built and was playing with it. That's the impression I got. It's easier to drop a .repo file in and just use Apache to serve the files. Esp since I'm using Puppet.

                                          Yeah, Spacewalk feels like it is solving a problem that doesn't really exist. Scratching something that doesn't itch.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04:

                                            I was going to go with a Spacewalk server, but since I'm using Puppet for CM, the complexities of Spacewalk wasn't worth it just for the repos.

                                            I used Spacewalk one place for everything and honestly, I hate it. Way too much work, way too little results 🙂

                                            I had an instance built and was playing with it. That's the impression I got. It's easier to drop a .repo file in and just use Apache to serve the files. Esp since I'm using Puppet.

                                            Yeah, Spacewalk feels like it is solving a problem that doesn't really exist. Scratching something that doesn't itch.

                                            I haven't used Satellite, so I don't know what's actually different, but it's expensive so I figured it was useful ha. I think it's just for admins who want to be able to point and click.

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