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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis
      last edited by

      Is there really much of a point geo blocking when it's usually hacked bots that are hammering on our servers?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
        last edited by

        @Mike-Davis said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

        Is there really much of a point geo blocking when it's usually hacked bots that are hammering on our servers?

        And when geo-detection is so poor. Nearly everything that I do in Texas shows up as Ontario, Canada. Literally everything that I use identifies me as being in Canada.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          The splintering of IPv4 space has definitely wreaked havoc on geo assessing.

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          • RojoLocoR
            RojoLoco
            last edited by

            In Soviet Russia, IP address blocks you!

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

              @Mike-Davis said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

              Is there really much of a point geo blocking when it's usually hacked bots that are hammering on our servers?

              And when geo-detection is so poor. Nearly everything that I do in Texas shows up as Ontario, Canada. Literally everything that I use identifies me as being in Canada.

              That's fucked up - I always get Michigan!

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @RojoLoco
                last edited by

                @RojoLoco said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                In Soviet Russia, IP address blocks you!

                How'd you know it's the Russians?

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                  @RojoLoco said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                  In Soviet Russia, IP address blocks you!

                  How'd you know it's the Russians?

                  Who just happened to start at 8:21AM EST...... cluestick anybody?

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                  • AmbarishrhA
                    Ambarishrh
                    last edited by Ambarishrh

                    We use ConfigServer Firewall/ CSF on all our servers (CentOS7 now, previously was on CentOS6)

                    Its a Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI) firewall, Login/Intrusion Detection and Security application for Linux servers. It is based on IP tables and very well block a decent level of attacks. Our CSF logs regularly blocks (first temporarily for some time and then if attack/invalid connection attempt continues then permenant block) and we get notified.

                    Few details from an email i received today! 🙂

                    109.111.112.178 (AD/Andorra/mx2.andorsoft.ad) blocked for port scanning
                    Time: Wed Nov 9 20:56:53 2016 +0400
                    IP: 109.111.112.178 (AD/Andorra/mx2.andorsoft.ad)
                    Hits: 11
                    Blocked: Temporary Block

                    22.117.160.65 (TW/Taiwan/122-117-160-65.HINET-IP.hinet.net) blocked for port scanning
                    Time: Wed Nov 9 18:53:12 2016 +0400
                    IP: 122.117.160.65 (TW/Taiwan/122-117-160-65.HINET-IP.hinet.net)
                    Hits: 11
                    Blocked: Permanent Block

                    CSF has also option to block the entire country, however they warn that using country-level filtering will negatively impact performance and you will notice slower response times on your websites. This is due to the sheer size of the CIDR range lists (the list for the U.S. is 621K in plain text and contains more than 37,000 entries) and the fact that the firewall must check each incoming IP address against the chosen list(s).

                    Another feature i really like is the option to perform a basic security, stability and settings. A sample screenshot of a server check. Green ones are ok the the pink ones to be fixed.

                    XyqiBmx.png

                    On the latest version it even has an option to send scheduled reports on this security check as new versions could have more checks.

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                      @RojoLoco said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                      In Soviet Russia, IP address blocks you!

                      How'd you know it's the Russians?

                      Because you said

                      @travisdh1 said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                      8:45AM 31.8.66.206 User:demo
                      8:45AM 46.33.250.164 User:demo

                      Looking like Ukraine and Russia for the most part.

                      Plus that joke wouldn't work if the attackers were in Alsace-Lorraine or Burkina Faso.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @Ambarishrh
                        last edited by

                        @Ambarishrh I saw that, doesn't really give me anything beyond what cPHulk is doing already. Might have to try it on some local systems tho.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
                          last edited by

                          I'd just K-Line the whole /16 subnet and be done with it and see if that slows it down.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                            I'd just K-Line

                            I suspect that you may be unaware of the meaning that phrase has elsewhere lol

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                              @dafyre said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                              I'd just K-Line

                              I suspect that you may be unaware of the meaning that phrase has elsewhere lol

                              Wow. That's just sad. Guess I'll be expecting a visit from the FBI or NSA in a bit.

                              K-LINE is an old school IRC terminology. Was helping my old man with his IRC server today, lol.

                              K-LINE = block it forever... (on a Linux box, just use iptables, it's far, far easier).

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                                I'd just K-Line the whole /16 subnet and be done with it and see if that slows it down.

                                That's what I've been doing with cphulk. The number of different systems being used is a little crazy. At this point I'm just wondering if I'll ever be able to prove anything, even tho I'm almost certain it's a government agency behind it.

                                Example of cPHulk email:
                                alt text

                                Block the IANA Netblock and call it done.

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                                • AmbarishrhA
                                  Ambarishrh @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                                  @Ambarishrh I saw that, doesn't really give me anything beyond what cPHulk is doing already. Might have to try it on some local systems tho.

                                  cPHulk uses a MySQL database that does not use iptables in the manner CSF is using. It is more intensive to block using cPHulk due to the fact it blocks based on logging authentications to a MySQL database and then determining actions based on it. It is actually more streamlined and easier to manage CSF / LFD due to it dealing directly with iptables via flat files.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @Ambarishrh
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ambarishrh said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Suddenly hit from lots of different places today.:

                                    @Ambarishrh I saw that, doesn't really give me anything beyond what cPHulk is doing already. Might have to try it on some local systems tho.

                                    cPHulk uses a MySQL database that does not use iptables in the manner CSF is using. It is more intensive to block using cPHulk due to the fact it blocks based on logging authentications to a MySQL database and then determining actions based on it. It is actually more streamlined and easier to manage CSF / LFD due to it dealing directly with iptables via flat files.

                                    I grep that. I have been keeping an eye on performance, and we haven't seen any detrimental effects yet (the memory cache for the mysql instance is ~2x the db size currently.)

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      For those interested in such things

                                      0_1478721557353_upload-b18683f9-ac76-4b8a-ae2b-197d3b5dc645

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre
                                        last edited by

                                        Are the attacks still ongoing today?

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          Got this knocked down to one every half hour instead of once every five minutes by 5PM yesterday, and the last notification I got was at 6:02AM this morning, hopefully we're done with these..... silly.... people.

                                          Some (hopefully) final numbers for you all.
                                          0_1478785140922_upload-ffd74363-5686-46cf-a8cd-5d191f664664

                                          0_1478785277894_upload-54aa2098-f090-4457-bd11-729adec288ea

                                          They never even tried a valid user in addition to trying this on a service that responds as being active but then rejects all login attempts. Silly, silly people.

                                          PS - I hope all the mods appreciate my self-moderation here 😉

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 I'm totally shocked... not a single hit for root as the login name!

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