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    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

      @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

      A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

      I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

      RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

      Oh I don't disagree, I just can't even get involved with the issues. Buffalo Terastation, and then the compounded issues of drive choice etc.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

        @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

        @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

        A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.

        I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.

        RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5

        Oh I don't disagree, I just can't even get involved with the issues. Buffalo Terastation, and then the compounded issues of drive choice etc.

        You got involved, you cross posted it here and derided it. Do you think people at SW do not know that you did so? You are mistaken.

        Edit for clarity: We all talk about threads from elsewhere all the time, but you consistently cross post from SW intentionally to deride them.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch fair point....

          But you made this thread for the very purpose.

          I won't get involved and even attempt to assist.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in I can't even:

            @JaredBusch fair point....

            But you made this thread for the very purpose.

            I won't get involved and even attempt to assist.

            I did, and I am quite aware of what thread this is.
            But note my point about consistently.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch So you're bashing is different than mine, because of the volume of it?

              Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by DustinB3403

                So this one is a bit mind boggling.... Can I format the OS partition to change from FAT32 to NTFS and keep things in working order?

                No... just no. Don't attempt this.

                Second... you need to virtualize.

                Third just setup a new DC and migrate the roles before you do anything. Attempting this will likely break the DC.

                Also you only have a single DC?!

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                  Maybe I was dreaming it.
                  It would have been a decade or more ago.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                    I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                    Maybe I was dreaming it.
                    It would have been a decade or more ago.

                    There used to be one to go from Fat16 to Fat32. I don't remember any that would go from Fat32 to NTFS.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                      I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                      Maybe I was dreaming it.
                      It would have been a decade or more ago.

                      Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @wirestyle22
                        last edited by dafyre

                        @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                        @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                        I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                        Maybe I was dreaming it.
                        It would have been a decade or more ago.

                        Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

                        The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.

                        http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html

                        That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                          @dafyre said in I can't even:

                          @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

                          @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                          I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
                          Maybe I was dreaming it.
                          It would have been a decade or more ago.

                          Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?

                          The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.

                          http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html

                          That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.

                          Ah I see

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                              My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                              It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                Wonder if I'll get any comments on my one word answer.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                  This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                  https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                  My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                  It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                  Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    all we can really do is LOL.

                                    Actually that's not true - this guy has preconceived notions that need to be challenged. No different than I did when I joined SW years ago. I'm guessing he's missing the understanding of why RAID 5 is bad for HDDs these days (just like I was), definitely seems to not understand how the Storage Spaces works, etc.

                                    Now Scott loves to assume that everyone is as brilliant as he is, and that they automatically know that Storage Spaces is the rebanded MS Software RAID. The reality is that many don't. And he, like many others, my have run MS RAID in the past and were part of the fortunate ones that never had a problem with it. So, like those that believe they have HA because they have a SAN and they've never had outage continue to believe in that single SAN solution as viable for HA, we know from understanding real failure domains that it's not HA.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                      My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                      It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                      Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                                      There's no need to be aggressive with me.

                                      I'm outta here.

                                      LOL.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                        My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                        It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                        Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                                        I'd almost have to say that most generalist don't fit Scott's definition of an IT guy, and possible not even a more generally accepted definition either. more often than not, generalists don't do research, they call up on the sales guy to sell him something that he can then sell to management.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                          all we can really do is LOL.

                                          Actually that's not true - this guy has preconceived notions that need to be challenged. No different than I did when I joined SW years ago. I'm guessing he's missing the understanding of why RAID 5 is bad for HDDs these days (just like I was), definitely seems to not understand how the Storage Spaces works, etc.

                                          The problem is, he does the misdirection thing. Instead of saying "I don't understand" or "can you clarify" or "I don't agree" he pulls out a "I know this doesn't matter because of this unrelated thing" to try to make it sound like he knows why it's okay but demonstrates that he's attempting to make someone (maybe his boss) think he has an answer that he doesn't. He's not even acknowledging the advice, he's ignoring it in an aggressive way.

                                          Like the iSCSI. We say "this isn't safe." He answers "I think it's fast enough." WTF

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @BRRABill said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.

                                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis

                                            My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.

                                            It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.

                                            Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.

                                            I'd almost have to say that most generalist don't fit Scott's definition of an IT guy, and possible not even a more generally accepted definition either. more often than not, generalists don't do research, they call up on the sales guy to sell him something that he can then sell to management.

                                            Well, that wouldn't be a generalist if that was what they did. That's an IT Buyer, not someone working in IT. Like buying a car makes me a car buyer, not an automotive engineer. IT people buy products too, of course, but IT practitioners are product buyers, not IT buyers (at least part of the time.) What you describe isn't a generalist at all but purely a layer of bureaucracy paid to buy IT. I have no idea why companies have this layer as the layer about could buy IT more cost effectively and faster without that layer.

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